Subject: Re: Nagel's paper on ID From: Dave Mauzy Date: Sun, 13 Dec 2009 14:52:57 -0500 To: CSE719-FA09-LIST@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU I was briefly confused as my mind, upon seeing "ID" immediated went to Psychoanalysis instead of thinking about Intelligent Design ... I found it amusing. On Sat 12/12/09 10:33 PM , Patrick Ray plray@BUFFALO.EDU sent: > > All, > > > > It was mentioned during Friday's class that Nagel has "jumped the > > shark" according to some philosophers by (seemingly) advocating ID. > > I have attached his paper for your consideration. > > > > *personal comment* Some others have argued that ID should be taught > > in schools: Ned Hall (Harvard) gave a talk at my former university > > where he advocated teaching ID in science classes. Hall's > > argument was (as I remember it) that ID can be used as a pedagogical > > tool to teach students the difference between science and > > non-science, or good science and bad science. All too often we > > teach scientific theories without talking about what makes a theory > > scientific. By teaching students the differences between good > > science and bad science we can train future scientists to forge > > better theories. I think Nagel and Hall might be thinking > > similarly, but I haven't read Nagel closely enough and I'm > > just working on what I remember from Hall's talk (it's not a > > paper yet). NB: Hall's talk attracted all sorts of kooks due to > > the title, "Why Intelligent Design Should Be Taught in the Schools > > (and How)." I'm not saying that all IDers are kooks but the > > title was enough to rally the crazies. > > > > Cheers, > > > > Patrick Ray > > > >